On the Peoples' Collection of Wales website.
Ffynnonwen School and Login History, Whitland, Carmarthenshire (Cilymaenllwyd Parish)
Compiled by Ruth Roberts (nee Phillips) who lived at Gwenlais, Login, from 1963-73 and attended Ffynnonwen from 1963-7. I have therefore not been in the area for many years and do not profess to have expert knowledge. There follows some snippets of information about Ffynnonwen School and the village of Login. Please feel free to correct me or add information (ruthroberts123@aol.co.uk).
Monday 23 September 2024
Kil y Maenllwyd Visitation 1710
The Kil y maenllwyd extract is from Genuki online and from
A Visitation of the Archdeaconry of Carmarthen, 1710
Background to 'Login' name
This is from Carms record office, from the Dictionary of the Places Names of Wales book by Richard Morgan.
Saturday 6 April 2024
Some Old Ffynnonwen Pupils
Thursday 22 February 2024
Old OS Maps online
Detailed Old Victorian Ordnance Survey 6 inch to 1 mile Old Map (1805-1869) Cwmfelin Boeth Cwmfelin Boeth Dyfed lat:51.840610 lon:-4.629867 (archimaps.co.uk)
Tuesday 1 November 2022
Plascrwn and Neighbouring Houses
The houses appear on this map in 1887. Note that the bridge was not there then. The bridge seems to have been built in 1891, according to the plaque in its wall.
The same view in 1905:
Saturday 31 October 2020
Building a Village Pump!
29 Jan 1924
THE LOGIN WELL - in the 1906 newspaper.
1906. Login Well
The well is certainly on the property of Captain Philpps, who has not and, I presume, will not make any objection to it on certain conditions. It ought to be analysed. It has been in use for many years, for hundreds of years. Dr Williams said that the well, which was mostly used for dietetic purposes was that in the hollow below the Post Office. If this was used for dietetic purposes it ought to be analysed.
The PO in 1889 was further up the hill towards Ffynnonwen, but no well is shown:
Friday 3 November 2017
Perlau Taf Group
Sunday 23 July 2017
Mabel Evans Plascrwn fishing in the Taf
War Activity at Login Station
'Saw the film Dunkirk this evening and a scene in it brought back some memories. After the evacuation troops had to be returned to their units via troop trains.
I remember one coming through Login. The ladies of the village had been requested to supply tea,water and bread and jam for the troops in transit. I can remember large milk churns of water, many trays of bread and jam, and some cakes for the soldiers.
The train was pulled by two engines with many carriages, it took two or three stops for most of the soldiers to be replenished with what was on hand. It was then on to Llanglydwen where probably the same thing happened.
I don't think Login station had ever been as busy before or since that day. In my mind I can see it as if yesterday.
Sunday 28 May 2017
Wednesday 29 March 2017
Saturday 26 March 2016
A Login Whip from Derrick Rhyddarch-Evans
As promised, this is the whip handle made by the whip maker who lived in
Glanrhyd.
It is 28ins (70cm) long, and still in good condition! Not bad for 100 years plus!!
Monday 18 January 2016
Memories of Mills by Derrick Rhydderch-Evans
The mill was above and to the right of the station. This was not Coedllys mill, that was a woollen mill. I have a length of cloth that was woven there. It was bought by my grandmother who was a seamstress who lived in Plascrwn,where I was born and lived until I joined the RAF.
Thursday 14 January 2016
Taf Valley Lives by Denley Owen
Published by Llyfrau Cambria, Llandeilo it gives an account of life for the working-class in a rural west Wales valley during the 20th century.
It is based on information from many sources including photographs, note-books, diaries, letters and newspaper-cuttings left by the author's mother together with annual chapel reports as well as verbal accounts from numerous family members. With over 200 photographs the book drew the following comment from Thomas Lloyd, OBE, DL, FSA, vice-president of the Carmarthenshire Antiquarian Society:
' These treasured memories of old Welsh agricultural society resonate far beyond the small valley from which they come. Denley Owen's careful record has opened a window for us on this vanished way of life, which engaged so many but is now remembered by so few.'
River Levels - Taf at Login
They give the following information on the Taf in Login:
The normal level of the Taf at Login in average weather conditions is between 0.82m and 1.01m. It has been between these levels for at least 159 days in the past year.
The usual range of the Taf at Login in more extreme weather conditions is between 0.78m and 1.38m. It has been between these levels for 90% of the time since monitoring began.
The most recent high is 3.09m, reached on Saturday 16th January 2010 at 8:30am.
The highest level ever recorded at the Taf at Login is 3.09m, recorded on Saturday 16th January 2010 at 8:30am.
Penygaer School Group from Derrick Rhydderch-Evans - 1958
Monday 26 May 2014
Wednesday 14 May 2014
Old Map1838 - Cilymaenllwyd Parish
Monday 31 March 2014
Rose and Albert Davies of Plascrwn, Login 1943
I have attached a photo of my grandparents, Albert & Rose Davies, taken in 1943, 5 years before Rose died at the age of 54.
Albert spent most of his life living in Login, having been born at the Plascrwn Arms in 1890. Most of his working life was with the Great Western Railway.
Albert kept bees and, when I was a child, I recall him sending us jars of delicious, slightly crystallized, honey.
Although, during my visits as a child, I cannot remember seeing the bee hives, I understand from Derrick (Derrick Evans, cousin), that they were kept at the end of the rather hilly garden behind 'Plascrwn' and 'Taf House' next door.
Ffynnonwen School Groups 1920s
Login 1950s
Tuesday 18 March 2014
Old Ordnance Survey Maps.
Lots of zoomable images to view - here is a screenshot of Login from the 1880s.
Thursday 13 February 2014
More Memories from Derrick Evans
Sunday 2 February 2014
Old Login Pictures and Memories by Derrick Evans
Thursday 26 September 2013
Glyntaf House
Do you happen to have any history on Glyntaf residential home. I am very interested in finding out the history before it came a care home and do not know any way to find this out??
After the above query thought I would start a category for any info we collect. Any copyright problems with what I post just let me know and it will be removed.
The following has come from www.rightmove.co.uk
Description:
The nine acres of grounds are a combination of gardens, woodland, and a walled garden.
From Coflein
An early 19th century Gothick villa incorporating an earlier (possibly 17th century) building.
Walls of rubble masonry with pointed windows and doorways.
From British Listed Buildings
Grade 11 - approximately 1.7 km SSW of Llanglydwen, to W of minor road to Login, overlooking River Taf.
Source: Cadw
From Gentleman's Magazine 1839
Cromlech in grounds (not sure if this is Glyn Tafs) Residence of Capt Protheroe.
From National Library of Wales
Trewern, Whitland, estate, records
Reference code(s): GB 0210 TRWERN
Held at: National Library of Wales
Title: Trewern (Whitland) Estate Records
CONTEXT
Administrative/Biographical history: The family derives from a mixed origin, combining the Joneses of Penrallt, Cardiganshire, the Scottish family of Schaw, the Protheroes of Dolwilym, Carmarthenshire, and the Beynons of Trewern, Pembrokeshire.
The Protheroe family resided at Dolwilym from around the turn of the 17th century when Rhydderch ap John, living in 1600, bought Dolwilym. The estate descended in the male line until Evan Protheroe (1715-1795), who had married Elizabeth, daughter of David Jones of Penyrallt, died without issue. He bequeathed the estate to his brother-in-law, Dr Evan Jones, stipulating that he should take the surname Protheroe.
Evan Jones succeeded to the estate on the death of his sister, Elizabeth in 1813. He married Emma, widow of David Garrick, and when he died in 1841 the estate passed to his only daughter Emma Hart Protheroe. She married William Garrick Bridges Schaw (d. 1856), who took on the additional surname of Protheroe after their marriage in 1819. Their son, Edward Schaw Protheroe (d. 1906) married Ellen Augusta Cecilia Beynon, daughter of John Thomas Beynon, of Trewern.
Ellen's great-grandfather was Thomas Beynon of Cethin, who had inherited Trewern in right of his wife, Mary Thomas, heiress of Trewern and daughter of John Thomas (d. 1730). The estate had passed down the male line until Ellen Augusta Cecilia Beynon.
Edward and Ellen's heir was Major Godfrey Evan Protheroe of Dolwilym and Trewern, who took the additional surname of Beynon in 1899.
CONTENT
Scope and content/abstract: Deeds and documents,1600-1919, relating to the Trewern estate, mainly in Cardiganshire, Carmarthenshire, and Pembrokeshire, routine estate and financial correspondence, mainly 19th century, sale catalogues, valuations, etc., 1859-1919, rentals of the Trewern estate, 1860-1896, the Manoravon estate, 1875-1896, and the Clynmarch and Coedmor estates, 1875; and deeds and documents, 1892-1908, relating to the Dolwilym and Glyn-taf estates in Carmarthenshire, and Pembrokeshire.
From Carmarthen Historian - Diary of a Doctor's Wife (long article)
On their marriage Captain Schaw took the surname Protheroe, and with his wife settled at Colby Lodge, a neat Georgian residence near Amroth, but by 1839 they had moved to a small country house belonging to the Dolwilym estate, called Glyntaf, pleasantly situated on the breast of a hill above Dolwilym, where they continued until Dr Protheroe's death in 1841 when they moved to their final home in the sheltered vale below. It was their great-grandson, the late Mr. G. J. Protheroe-Beynon, O.B.E., of Trewern, afterwards of Hurst House, Laugharne, who placed the family archives in the Carmarthen Record Office, among them the diaries which we shall now examine.
Saturday 9 February 2013
Login Railway Station on Facebook
The new owners purchased Login station in 2011 and over the next few months will add more articles about the house, it's history and the line known as the Cardi Bach.
A special Facebook page has been set up for LOGIN RAILWAY STATION
Monday 28 January 2013
Login - Cardi Bach - Ground Frame Building
Thursday 27 September 2012
Cylch Meithrin Ffynnonwen - 40 Years
50 Years Since Cardi Bach Closed
Thursday 7 June 2012
Login Olympic Torch Bearer
Penygaer School (closed 1959)
John Evans
Rees Thomas
Catherine Ann Harries
Evan J.Davies
John S.Harries
Edward Phillips
John E.Jones
John Jones
W.Rhydderch Evans
Wednesday 23 November 2011
Saturday 13 August 2011
Cylch Meithrin Ffynnowen 2011
Angela Burns AM with Clr. Roy Llewellyn and children at the school.
A cawl lunch fundraiser for Cylch Meithrin Ffynnowen started the St. David’s Day celebrations in style, with a cast of Tiny Tots singing their hearts out to the delight of the many parents and supporters of this successful nursery group in Login.
The pounds are still being counted in, but the home-made cakes, jams and presents flew off the stalls.
The raffle was drawn by South Pembrokeshire Assembly member Angela Burns, who said: “Having lived just down the road from the school, I have seen how incredibly popular it is and rightly so. All credit to the dedicated team who keep it all going.”
c. http://www.narberth-and-whitland-today.co.uk/
Friday 3 June 2011
1911 Census - Snippets
Benjamin Lewis aged 67yrs of Pumpsant was classed as a 'jockey'.
John Lewis aged 39yrs of Church Cottage, Login was a G.W.R. Platelayer.
Henry Thomas aged 36yrs of Lletty was also a Platelayer.
Phebe Williams, single and aged 35yrs was shown as the 'Inn Keeper' of 7 room Plascrwn Arms.
There was also two little cottages called Bridge Street (presumably the little row by Login Bridge) - both had only two rooms - in one lived Hester Lewis, 58yrs old and single and in the other was Martha Davies, a 76yr old widow.
John Lewis aged 51yrs and his 25yr old son Alfred Parry Lewis were shown as tailor and shopkeeper and tailor respectively. They were shown living at 'Login Shop' which had 9 rooms. Also John's 19yr old daughter's middle name was Cleopatra.
Mary Jones, a 69yr old widow was also a shopkeeper in the 3 roomed Login House.
John James aged 60yrs was a whip maker who lived in 2 roomed Glanrhyd.
Evan Jones was a 25 yr old joiner and cabinet maker in 4 roomed Ael y Bryn.
Philip Thomas was a tanner in 6 roomed Ponprenmiles.
Thomas and Benjamin Morgans aged 33 and 29yrs of 4 roomed Pantycelyn were coal hewers (where I wonder?).
Thomas Lewis aged 39yrs from Underhill I think was a road worker (some descriptions only in Welsh).
David Wilkins aged 21yrs was another platelayer and lived in 3 roomed Mount Pleasant.
John Morris aged 30yrs was shown as a Smith and working Login P.O. with his sister Margaret aged 25ryrs. The P.O. was shown with 4 rooms.
Daniel Davies aged 38yrs was a packer with G.W.R. and lived in 4 roomed Pleasant View.
Thursday 2 June 2011
Cilymaenllwyd Church 1710
Griffiths, G. Milwyn. A Visitation of the Archdeaconry of Carmarthen, 1710 National Library of Wales journal. 1974, Summer Vol XVIII/3.
Extracted onto the pages of GENUKI with the kind permission of the National Library of Wales
KIL Y MAEN LLWYD
The walls of the Church want rendring, the Tiling of the Roof between the Bells & the north door wants to be new ripped. The windows to be glaz'd. The floor to be made even. The Welsh Common Prayer Book is torn & imperfect. No Canons, nor printed Table of Degrees. The fence of the Churchyard to be repaired. No house, no Glebe, no Minister resident. Reputed value about 50 £ per annum. 62 Mr Collins Minister here 63 & of Llan Geler about 10 or 12 miles distant. His Curate Mr Morris of Llan Gan. Salary about 10 £ a year. Prayers every Sunday once, generally in Welsh, but sometimes half in English half in Welsh. See more under Llan Gan p. 24, where is also an account of the Dissenters. The Act against Swearing & cursing not read. Sacrament administred 4 times a year. Bread & wine at Easter found by Mr Collins the Rector. Communicants then about 60. Families 5o. See Llan Gan. From Mr Morris.
62. £35 in Ecton: op. cit., p. 379.
63. John Collins, B.A., instituted 1681 (SD / VC / 1, p. 142; SD / SB / 1, p. 95).
Monday 9 May 2011
Cattle 'Creep' at Login
"Cattle Creep" under disused Cardi Bach railway line just outside of Login.
It allowed cattle to pass through under the line to get to pastures near the River Taf.
Sunday 24 April 2011
Crime 1764
Accused
Thomas Eynon; Parish: Cilymaenllwyd; County: Carmarthen; Status: Labourer
Offence
Nuisance - obstructing a road by erecting a hedge and ditch.
Location and date
Parish: Cilymaenllwyd; County: Carmarthen; Date: 22 February 1764
Prosecutor
Owen Evans, gent.
Verdict
Quashed.~~
Wednesday 13 April 2011
1885 View of Login and Calfaria Chapel
Everywhere looked so clean and well kept, with really neat gardens - a credit to them all.
Thursday 2 September 2010
Memories of Gwenlais, Login, in the 1960s
The house was small and unmodernised – being a basic ‘two up two down’, with a small box room on the landing, a side pantry behind a shed type structure, and a black zinc shed on the southern side, with a tank outside for catching rainwater.
There were no modern amenities – water came from a tap in the zinc shed and the outside toilet was half way up the garden.
Viewing it on the hill in Google Streetview it had changed considerably.
In the 60s most of the windows faced the graveyard of Calfaria – apart from one in the kitchen and one on the half landing (I believe there were five steps, then a small half landing and window – then another five steps to the upstairs).
The front door was always painted in wide green and cream stripes – being rented my father didn’t believe in wasting money on redecorating! Paintwork was mostly grey – especially upstairs – and the wallpaper in my room was a sort of pattern with blue and yellow flowers – still recalled but hard to describe.
There was an old fashioned range in the kitchen – with an oven at the side, and an ordinary fireplace in the living room. There was also a fireplace in the northern bedroom with a large chimney breast and mantle piece – but I can’t recall one being in the other bedroom. There was also an under the stairs little cupboard – with a door opposite the front door.
There seemed to have been a dividing line outside between the ground and first floors – looking as if the second floor had been added later.
The two downstairs rooms had beams and a wooden ceiling – which was the floor of the bedrooms – so with only a thin divide sound did carry.
The small shed at the north side of the house was divided into two – the front half being where our dog lived – but the back part was joined on to the kitchen via a door and was a sort of pantry with shelves. It looked as if a window had looked over the valley from here at one point but this was now boarded over and a small one looked into the side garden.
Next to this was a small coal shed – then a wooden gate into the long side garden that stretched north.
Sketch showing house and gardens.
The garden was never tended much as my father was not very well. The first part would have been for vegetables. Then there was a sort of divide – where the toilet was, as well as a broken greenhouse and what would have been a pig sty.
The next section of garden was where the clothes line was – also lots of apple trees, and where I had a swing. There must have been a sort of well there at one time as there was large stone slab which probably covered the well.
Up the very top of the garden was another small shed.
The eastern boundary of the garden sloped down sharply to the valley bottom – and I had strict instructions not to go near!
There was a side driveway into the property, as well as small steps leading up to the lane that passed the front door. This lane was raided and about window height and the wall supporting it was made up of lots of small stones – where little lizards would bask in the sun.